In-Ministry vs In-Christ

By Liz Voboril
Podcast Episode

To receive an email each time we add an episode, sign up here. This episode continues our series on the J-Curve, looking at what it means to be "in Christ."

“When we think of idolatry we think about how it affects our relationship vertically with God and that is obvious and good but we’re not necessarily attentive to how it affects the horizontal relationship with those around us."


“Ministry is a particularly subtle idol because it’s got Jesus written all over it."


"Paul sits on the word 'know' in Philippians 3. Because in the J-Curve you get to know Jesus in ways you would never have known him through teaching or study. The good shepherd gets very close to you in the dying because it’s his story.  It’s his spirit and his presence. So Jesus becomes your friend in the dying."